Many computational models of normal vernier acuity make predictions ba
sed on the just-noticeable contrast difference. Recently, Hu, Klein an
d Carney [(1993) Vision Research, 33, 1241-1258] compared vernier acui
ty and contrast discrimination (jnd) in normal foveal viewing using co
sine gratings. In the jnd stimulus the test grating was added in-phase
to the (sinusoidal) pedestal, whereas in the vernier stimulus the sam
e test grating was added with an approx. 90 deg phase shift to the ped
estal. In the present experiments, we measured thresholds for discrimi
nating changes in relative position and changes in relative contrast f
or abutting, horizontal cosine gratings in a group of amblyopes using
the Hu et al., test-pedestal approach. The approach here is to ask whe
ther the reduced vernier acuity of amblyopes can be understood on the
basis of reduced contrast sensitivity or contrast discrimination. Our
results show that (i) abutting cosine vernier acuity is strongly depen
dent on stimulus contrast. (ii) In both anisometropic and strabismic a
mblyopes, abutting cosine vernier discrimination thresholds are elevat
ed at all contrast levels, even after accounting for reduced target vi
sibility, of contrast discrimination. (iii) For both strabismic and an
isometropic amblyopes, the vernier Weber fraction is markedly degraded
, while the contrast Weber fraction is normal or nearly so. (iv) In an
isometropic amblyopes the elevated vernier thresholds are consistent w
ith the observers' reduced cutoff spatial frequency, i.e. the loss can
be accounted for on the basis of a shift in spatial scale. (v) In str
abismic amblyopes and in the normal periphery, there appears to be an
extra loss, which can not be accounted for by either reduced contrast
sensitivity and contrast discrimination or by a shift in spatial scale
. (vi) This extra loss cannot be quantitatively mimicked by ''undersam
pling'' the stimulus. (vii) Surprisingly, in some strabismics, and in
the periphery, at relatively high spatial frequencies, vernier thresho
lds appear to lose their contrast dependence, suggesting the possibili
ty that there may be qualitative differences between the normal fovea
and these degraded visual systems. (viii) This contrast saturation can
be mimicked by ''undersampling'' the target, or by introducing strips
of mean luminance between the two vernier gratings, thus mimicking a
''scotoma''. Taken together with the preceding paper, our results sugg
est that the extra loss in position acuity of strabismic amblyopes and
the normal periphery may be a consequence of noise at a second stage
of processing, which selectively degrades position but not contrast di
scrimination.