We study the relationship between the cofinality c(Sym(w)) of the infi
nite symmetric group and the cardinal invariants u and g. In particula
r, we prove the following two results. Theorem 0.1. It is consistent w
ith ZFC that there exists a simple P-w1-point and that c(Sym(w)) = w(2
) = 2(w). Theorem 0.2. If there exist both a simple P-w1-point and a P
-w2-point, then c(Sym(w)) = w(1).