There have been many efforts to infer causation from association by using s
tatistical models. Algorithms for automating this process are a more recent
innovation. In Humphreys and Freedman [(1996) British Journal for the Phil
osophy of Science 47, 113-123] we showed that one such approach, by Spirtes
et al., was fatally flawed. Here we put our arguments in a broader context
and reply to Korb and Wallace [(1997) British Journal for the Philosophy o
f Science 48, 543-553] and to Spirtes et al. [(1997) British Journal for th
e Philosophy of Science 48, 555-568]. Their arguments leave our position un
changed: claims to have developed a rigorous engine for inferring causation
from association are premature at best, the theorems have no implications
for samples of any realistic size, and the examples used to illustrate the
algorithms are indicative of failure rather than success. The gap between a
ssociation and causation has yet to be bridged.