Sparks in MSGCs can be induced by strongly ionizing particles that damage t
he anodes. In MSGCs combined with GEMs, the MSGC gain can be reduced below
the sparking threshold. However, occasionally discharges in the GEM can pro
duce large secondary sparks at the MSGC. We discuss the dependence of the s
park rate on geometrical and electrical parameters of the detectors. Differ
ent gas mixtures are compared. The most efficient way to avoid secondary sp
arks is to reduce the electric field between GEM and MSGC to below 6.6 kV/c
m. We present first results from a robust alternative to MSGCs, the groove
detector. (C) 2000 Elsevier Science B.V. All rights reserved.