The ASCA and BeppoSAX spectra of the Circinus galaxy and NGC 1068 are analy
sed and compared with photoionization models based on CLOUDY. In the case o
f Circinus, a single, mildly ionized reflector can account for the line spe
ctrum, while in NGC 1068 at least three different reflectors (with differen
t ionization states) are needed. We suggest that the reflector in Circinus
and the low ionized one in NGC 1068 are the inner and visible part of the m
aterial responsible for the X-ray absorption. With this assumption, we esti
mate for the inner radius of the absorber a value of 0.2 pc for Circinus an
d of a few parsecs for NGC 1068.