Comments on "Frictional dissipation in a precipitating atmosphere''

Pauluis et al. argue that frictional dissipation of energy around falling h ydrometeors is an important entropy source in the tropical atmosphere. Thei r calculations suggest that the frictional dissipation around hydrometeors is about 1/3 of the work available from a reversible convective heat engine . Moreover, based on the residual of the energy budget of a numerical model , not shown in their note, the authors argue that irreversible entropy sour ces due to diffusion of water vapor and phase changes reduce the mechanical work available from the convective heat engine by about 2/3. Pauluis et al . conclude that only a tiny fraction of the energy potentially available fr om a convective heat engine is used to perform work. Renno' and Ingersoll show that frictional heating can be easily included in the heat engine framework via increases in the thermodynamic efficiency of a reversible heat engine. It is shown that the effect of any other irrever sible process is merely to reduce the thermodynamic efficiency of a reversi ble convective heat engine. Thus, the framework proposed by Renno' and Inge rsoll is valid even when the heat engine is as irreversible as suggested by Pauluis et al. Since irreversible entropy sources reduce the mechanical wo rk available from the convective heat engine, the study of Pauluis et al. i mplies that the bulk thermodynamic efficiency of the tropical atmosphere is only a tiny fraction of that predicted by the framework proposed by Renno' and Ingersoll. Both theoretical and observational evidence that the calcul ations performed by Pauluis et al. overestimate the irreversible entropy ch anges in the real tropical atmosphere is shown. Moreover, evidence that num erical models are highly dissipative when compared with nature is shown. Th erefore, the interpretation of Pauluis et al. that the reversible heat engi ne framework grossly overestimates the rate at which work is performed by t ropical convective systems is not agreed with.