When in 1839 Wagner met Berlioz in Paris, the nearly thirty-six-year-old Fr
ench composer was already established as the controversial composer of a Re
quiem Mass, an opera that has recently failed at the Academie Royale de Mus
ique, and three unconventional symphonies in which 'story' and structure we
re combined in novel ways. As he attempted to make his way in Paris, Wagner
was disturbed not only by hearing the Ninth Symphony played more brilliant
ly than he had ever imagined but also by hearing Berlioz's dramatic symphon
y Romeo et Juliette, which surely caused him to further clarify his own not
ions of music and drama. From 1839 until Berlioz's death in 1869 and beyond
, Wagner seems always to have had mixed feelings about Berlioz when reflect
ing on earlier experiences. This article considers the impact of Berlioz on
Wagner--his absorption of Berlioz's procedure of 'reunion de themes', for
example--and Berlioz's impression of Wagner: his respect for the German's a
bility to attract attention to himself and to compose his own librettos. Al
though Wagner's renown became far greater than Berlioz's, he had a tendency
to 'fear' Berlioz as compositional rival and, because Berlioz was so vital
an artistic figure, as a rival for the mantle of Beethoven, which Wagner h
oped to inherit alone.