A better understanding of the child protection-forensic psychiatric interfa
ce could contribute to prevention of child homicide and suicide. Assailant
rates in potential 'risk' groups (1986-95) and the suicide of assailants an
d male sex abusers (1995-6) were calculated, based upon an epidemiological
analysis of police and official records, from within a population of 2.4 mi
llion people. There were 27 murderers. Of the murders, 81% were intra-famil
ial. In the group of murderers 55% were 'mentally ill', 27% were 'child neg
lecters' and 18% were 'violent offenders'. All extra-familial assailants we
re child sex abusers (CSA). The homicide rate of 'mentally ill mothers' (MI
M) was 10 per 100,000 (pht) p.a. of those estimated to be at risk. The 'vio
lent offenders' rate was 44 pht p.a.; 'neglecting' mothers rate, 83 pht p.a
.; and violent 'multi-criminal child sex abusers' (MCCSA) rate, 870 pht p.a
. Half the 'mentally ill' murderers committed suicide, but none of the viol
ent 'MCCSA' assailants. In the CSA cohort of 374, 3.2% of 'sex offences onl
y'(SOO) abusers killed themselves. The violent MCCSA killed at more than 80
+ times the rate of MIM; while the suicide rate of SOO abusers was 200 time
s the general population rate, highlighting the possibilities for the foren
sic psychiatric-child protection interface in prevention strategies.